S05E03: The Pulled Groin Extrapolation

An now, the must-watch exciting conclusion of the axion calculation saga on the whiteboards.

Last week we saw two episodes where upon our heroes’ whiteboards unfolded about making an exciting new particle, “the axion” on Earth. Could axions be made inside an artificial Sun made by the National Ignition Facility?  This summer, I was excited about this, but as you already know by now from reading tonight’s whiteboards, I made a terrible, terrible mistake.

To estimate the rate of axions I used the relative power produced by the Sun versus the small compressed sample produced at the National Ignition Facility.  In both cases a material is made so hot that atoms are ripped apart into their constituents: electrons and nuclei.  Such a gas is called a plasma, and plasma is sometimes called “the fourth state of matter” as it is step hotter than just ordinary gas. It is not unfamiliar.  The glowing orange material in a neon sign is a plasma.

The Northern Lights are an example of a plasma you can see. (National Geographic) The last three episode's whiteboards explored if a dense hot plasma could make the elusive Axion particle.

I was comparing the large far-away plasma in the core of the Sun to the tiny, but close, plasma created in the lab.   It initially looked like the laboratory won.  To understand what was wrong,  you first have to understand how the Sun produces its energy.

The strong nuclear interaction likes to bind protons and neutrons together.   And Martha Stewart says, “It’s a good thing”.  Without it, the only atoms we would ever have are hydrogen.  If hydrogen were our only element, we’d have an unperiodic periodic table–with only one entry, hydrogen. In real life, the nucleus of every atom is held together by this force.  And its strength is impressive.  For example, in helium and every element heavier the protons are repelling each other. Same-sign charges (in the protons’ case, both positive) repel with a force increasing as the square of their distance from each other decreases.  A nucleus is extremely small, and those protons are so close they want to fly apart, badly.   The strong interaction overcomes this repulsion and nuclei stay bound.  That’s why it is called the “strong interaction” (or “strong force”).

But there’s a wrinkle.  If you try to bring just two together (either protons or neutrons) there is only one combination that is stable: a pairing of one neutron and one proton.  The pairing of  two protons or two neutrons is not.

You might think you the strong force could combine any pairing of protons and neutrons. But quantum mechanics only allows a proton and neutron to bind. The result is heavy hydrogen, or "deuterium".

It might seem the reason why two protons are not bound is because of their electric repulsion. But that would not explain why two neutrons are also not bound.  The answer really  lies within the constraints of the quantum mechanics of identical particles.   It turns out that the only way to put two identical neutrons or protons together is if they have angular momentum, but then they are not bound.  We teach our physics majors all about this at UCLA in our introductory quantum mechanics class.  If you can take a quantum mechanics class, I highly recommend it.

The core of the Sun is full of protons but no free neutrons.  So the only way to make energy from them is to convert one of those protons into a neutron so you can bind them.  This bound state of a neutron and proton is still chemically hydrogen, but it has an extra neutron so it is called “heavy hydrogen”, or more technically deuterium.  That’s  the same “heavy” of “heavy water”. “Heavy” water is made with “heavy hydrogen”.   But the reaction does not conserve electric charge so you need a light positively charged particle to fly away, and it turns out to be the anti-matter partner of an electron, which has a positive charge (e+), and so is a “positron”.   But that introduces a new problem.  A positron is a type of particle called “lepton” and for reasons not yet understood, you can’t vioate the number of leptons.   So you also need a neutrino (ν)  to be made as well to not create any net leptons. (These neutrinos were detected from the Sun over the last few decades.  They changed our entire understanding of neutrinos but that’s a story for another day.)    It’s easiest to see graphically:

The first step of making energy in the Sun's core by nuclear fusion.

Ultimately these deuteriums (deuteria?) undergo further reactions and the net reaction in the Sun is:

4 protons  –> 1 helium nucleus (2 protons + 2 neutrons)  + 2 neutrinos + lots of energy.

The released energy heats the core and makes the Sun shine. What happened to the positrons?   They are antimatter and as soon as they find an electron (not long at all!) they annihilate into energy.The problem is that first step:  proton +proton -> proton + neutron + positron +neutrino.    To be a bound state we had to convert a proton to a neutron.  The strong interaction cannot do that, but the weak interaction can.   It is a very weak process and that’s why it is called “the weak interaction”.  It is so slow that this dominates the rate of the total fusion in the Sun.

The rate of energy production in the Sun is so slow that pound-for-pound you produce more energy  than the Sun.  Just sitting in front of your computer, digesting your last meal, you produce about 1 Watt of power per kilogram of your body weight.   The sun produces only about 0.0002 Watts per kilogram.   The Sun is just bigger.  A lot bigger. While it is tempting to think of it as a massive nuclear furnace, it really is just smoldering.   We’re lucky too.  If the Sun’s reactions were not throttled by the weak interaction we would be living next to a nuclear bomb, not a star.

But the good people at the National Ignition Facility cannot wait around for such slow reactions.  Instead, they use heavy hydrogen (deuterium). and an even heavier hydrogen with two neutrons and proton, or “tritium”. Their  net reaction is:

deuterium+ tritium -> helium + neutron + energy.

No neutrons or protons changed their identity. They just change who they hang out with.   This proceeds by the strong interactiona nd also releases massive energy.  This reaction is about 1025 times faster than the proton+proton fusion in the Sun. And there’s the rub.  You can’t compare the two Sun’s directly.  The boys’ calculation was off by “only” a factor of 1025.

Before the taping of tonight’s episode, many of the crew members asked me why there was an unhappy face :( at the end of one of the whiteboards.  Now you know why.

17 Responses to “S05E03: The Pulled Groin Extrapolation”

  1. charlesculp Says:

    Thanks for the post, I really enjoyed it, even if the whiteboard was only visible for a few seconds this episode.

  2. feldfrei Says:

    Many thanks for the explanation – though I’m familiar with fusion processes from my former nuclear physics background I was not really aware that the axion production has to do with the hot plasma rather than directly with the fusion reaction. Thus, the total axion rate indeed scales with the volume and makes the rather inefficient fusion plant Sun a powerful potential axion source since it’s just huge. As a matter of chance, a few weeks ago I prepared an illustration for a press release about solar neutrinos from the ‘pep’ process detected by the BOREXINO experiment at the Gran Sasso underground lab in Italy: http://www.mpi-hd.mpg.de/mpi/typo3temp/pics/b60b0aeb3d.png

    Best greetings from Mallorca (at a severe storms conference)

  3. Chris Says:

    Sheldon would never had made that mistake!

  4. Lord of the Sheaf Says:

    It’s a pity that it is so terribly difficult to spot those whiteboards during the episodes. I fear a little that tbbt is transforming more and more into a ‘normal’ sitcom. Would be boring and redundant. It feels a bit, that the producers grew a little tired on this prominent science stuff and the prominent nerdiness. But instead of transforming their handling of the science, they seem to try keeping it out more and more.

    I am just waiting for that one episode, when sheldon meets a mathematician, who is at least as obnoxious as sheldon is and who kind of pokes sheldons work around^^ as mathematically inexact and therefor not true^^.

    On the other hand there is much more to the lives of science people than sheldon, raj, howard and leonard are exposing. On the one hand you are travelling much, but more importantly there often comes a point where you have to leave a place and seek opportunity/failure elsewhere.

    For instance: My perception it is, that most married professors at the universities I have visited so far, have a partner who is likely to have a degree but gave up his/her science career for that of the partner. (Ok this is a problem every profession has to face nowadays)

    There are so much more topics, which people in science positions have to handle. I guess this would make for some great episodes, than this constant gibble, gabble of boy-girl relationsships every sitcom as examined very closely so far.

  5. Jaya Gibson Says:

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  6. Andrius Rudeičiukas (@churchill1874) Says:

    Is this site dead or just BBT lost their scientific side ?

  7. Pomita Says:

    Really looking forward to your updates about the more recent episodes (the Russian rocket and Schrodinger’s friendship/Heisenberg in 5, Saul Perlmutter and cosmology in 6, Sheldon’s whiteboard musings with a CPT operator in 7, FTL neutrinos in 8)..

    Who says BBT doesn’t have enough current science nowadays?

  8. Jaya Gibson Says:

    Hi there,

    

Just following up from my recent email about your RSS feed being published to Before It’s News. 

I’m the Science & Technology editor at Before It’s News.

    Our site is a People Powered news platform with over 2,000,000 visits a month and growing fast. 



    We would be honored if we could republish your blog RSS feed in our Science & Technology category.
    Our readers need to read what your blog has to say.

    Syndicating to Before It’s News is a terrific way spread the word and grow your audience. Many other organizations are using Before It’s News to do just that. We can have your feed up and running in 24 hours. I just need you to reply with your permission to do so. Please include the full name and email of the person who will assigned be to the account, and let me know the name you want on the account (most people have their name or their blog name).

    

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    Thank you, 



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  9. Our Bodies Create More Energy than the Sun « Thus Spoke Jon Says:

    [...] The URL for David Saltzberg’s blog is http://thebigblogtheory.wordpress.com/ and for this specific post is http://thebigblogtheory.wordpress.com/2011/09/30/s05e03-the-pulled-groin-extrapolation/. [...]

  10. Documented_Prism Says:

    Very cool blog :)

  11. mathias Says:

    When can we expect some more new, interesting blog entries? While season 5 is still running?
    I am looking forward to read exciting background information again. keep it up!

  12. Gareth Williams Says:

    I just saw the episode in season one in which Leonard does the olive and glass trick. (For readers who have not seen it, the glass is placed over the olive and moved rapidly in a circle so the olive is picked off the table and spins around inside the glass). The glass used appeared to have a constant outward taper towards the rim (ie a frustum of a cone).

    I do not see how it would be possible to do the trick with that sort of glass (and indeed I can’t get it to work!) I have seen a youtube video where the glass used is a brandy sniffter, which tapers inwards.

    The reaction force on the olive, normal to the glass, must have a horizontal component (the centripetal force) and a vertical component to balance its weight. This is possible only if the glass tapers inwards towards the rim. In an outward tapering glass the vertical component of the reaction force is downwards and the olive falls out. It will not spin inside the glass even for a short time, as it did for Leonard. I think they cheated when they filmed this!

    (It might be possible to get this to work with an outward tapering glass, but only by tilting it so the side of the glass in contact with the olive is at a less then vertical angle. The axis of the glass would have to be rotated at the same rate as the olive moving around, to keep it in. This would be very difficult and I do not think Leonard was doing that).

  13. feldfrei Says:

    @Gareth Williams: It might work if stiction is not neglected.

  14. Pooja Desai Says:

    Dear sir. Am writing a script for a small feature in India where the characters all have backgrnds on various branches of physics and was wondering @ what stage of the scripting process do you come in…

  15. WorkingSlaveUSA (@WorkingSlaveUSA) Says:

    David – I have to admit to never being being a very good student when it came to math and science. I excelled in English and Social Studies, but had to go to work early in life, so most of this is like trying to read Klingon to me! BUT – I have to say that at least once a week now I learn *something* from the show. I’ve even started watching the older seasons and when I hear something that confounds me, I come here to look it up or check for more info on the web. Just wanted you to know that the science you put into the show, even though it goes way over my head, still spurs me to learn more each week. Thanks for helping in my continuing education, even at 52 years of age!

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